Shuttle will enter the ION market as well. The Shuttle XS35 Nettop will feature a Nvidia ION2 which should be fast enough for 1080p output. The nettop also contains a dual-core 1.66GHz Atom D510 CPU, 500GB, 2GB RAM. 802.11n WiFi and Gigibit are also present:
No spidif, no dice. Unless it’s obscured in the black bezel.
Piethein Strengholt: I’m running XS35 with XBMCFreak with *Unstable* XBMCFreak beta2 livecd (* Nvidia 260.19.04 drivers, * Kernel 2.6.32-25-generic) installed to ssd. Good news is that after few tweaks everything works great! Unfortunately the main issue currently is that XS35 ethernet driver (only 100mbit btw) is not included in livecd image, so you have to install it manually. Is it somehow possible to include it in next xbmcfreak livecd version?
Drivers are here: ftp://driver.jmicron.com.tw/jmc2xx/Linux/
It would be great if ethernet would work out of box. Thank you!
No, it hasnt got apdif, only 2 channel analoge and audio over hdmi
@Piethein: de XS35GT is de versie met ION chipset. De XS35 ‘normaal’ heeft Intel GMA graphics. Beide zijn nu leverbaar volgens verschillende webshops
is dit dan eindelijk die aangekondigde fan-less??
- No SPidif out
- No Coax out
Totally useless, unless you have an AV-Receiver with HDMI Support.
Who is designing such a crap?
Hush hush, why so harsh :S
SPDIF (coaxial/optical) was on my wishlist, too, for a very long time. On the other hand, this is still meant as a small desktop PC!!! And for most simple tasks a system like this is designed for anyway, you won’t need SPDIF. And to be honest, more & more home cinema receivers DO have HDMI.
I still do think this can be a good deal, if priced right
Receivers cost stuff all and they all have HDMI now so one could equally say who cares about SPDIF.
The most important thing about this unit is that it is *fanless* – so pop an SSD in it and finally a completely silent HTPC unit for XBMC that can cruise along with 1080P!
Only thing missing is an inbuilt IR but a USB dongle is only a few dollars and means you can hide the shuttle away and have nothing on show but a teeny tiny USB reciever….
I’ve ordered one – less than AU$500 seems a bargain to me…
What does the extra AU$200 give you over an Acer revo 3610?
Silence.
Slightly faster CPU which helps with the interface and some of the full on skins.
And who has Revos for $300? And aren’t they discontinued??
No Gb lan
And what is this about ‘which should be fast enough for 1080p output’ shouldn’t this be ‘which is fast engough for 1080p output’ ????
I also prefer optical sound. I can buy 10 of these systems to replace my receiver alone…
So no optical no dice indeed
It can definitely do 1080p. There are several people in teh XBMC hardware forum using it now.
GB lan is pretty much irrelevant if you use it just as a streamer.
I was reading up on this versus the Zotac ID11 and the Jetway JBC600C99-52W.
There’s still not a whole lot of info out on this, but one of the major issues I found is that this unit is designed to work only when it’s vertical.
Possibly a none-issue for many, but for me it’s major since that means it won’t fit in the 17cm-high space below my TV (where my oldschool xbox is now sitting).
Another downside is vga instead of DVI and only one sodimm slot (zotac has this too).
The Jetway is now getting the edge in my personal comparison, but there’s so little info out on it’s build and noise and it may not have the support that companies like shuttle and zotac seem to be offering. Shuttle has been building awesome systems for years now and still seems to be leading the industry with compact and low-noise systems. Too bad this baby has a few shortcomings that make it a dealbreaker for me.
HDMI to DVI adaptor solves one problem for about $10.
The vertical thing is potentially an issue for some but given all you actually need on show is the IR receiver, I plan to just hide the whole unit behind my TV (50″ plasma, should cover it all
– I suppose if you still use discs that isn’t ideal but who can be bothered with discs anymore?
2GB is plenty for an HTPC – I have 4GB in my current ASRock but checking the mem usage in XBMC it never goes over (or near) the 2GB. And these days a 4GB SODIMM costs less than $100 anyway, if you feel you need it (e.g with a Win7 install).
Of course all that adds up I guess, if you need it – but for me it’s not so much the price, it’s all about the silence while still offering good streamining and UI performance etc.
O what drama – and just because SP/DIF is missing the whole thing is crap?
Now that is crap.
Just plug in a nuForce uDAC2 – you will have SPDIF in audiophile quality.
A D510 will not support more than 2GB Single Channel RAM.
Ah well the 2Gb thing is irrelevant from the XBMC thing – about 300MB is all it ever uses. Even running it on top of full Ubuntu it uses stuff all. I guess if you stuck Windows on it it might matter but why would you do that?
I just tested my XS35GT today with a 4Gb SODIMM and no problem!
Only due to the 32 bits Ubuntu 3Gb was allocated but I presume that with 64 bits Ubuntu all 4Gb can be used.
Oh, btw I was using the 1.09 firmware (thanx Simon’s blog!). Maybe that made a difference?
Can someone post their working asound.conf to make the HDMI work under Mythbuntu please?
@Chiel Did you use a specific brand of memory? Only 3Gig was recognized or utilized?
The standard 32-bit version of Ubuntu can use about 3.3 GB of RAM.
This amount can be increased to just under 64 GB of RAM by recompiling the kernel with the PAE option enabled in the kernel config.
@netjammr: I see adgr has already answered your question partially. The brand I used (borrowed) was:
Kingston 1x4GB DDR2 SODIMM PC6400 CL5.0
(ordered at http://www.4launch.nl)
@Chiel Could you please link 1.09 firmware? I couldnt find Simon’s blog… thanx
Here’s the article:
http://breden.org.uk/2010/09/30/shuttle-xs35gt-installing-xbmc-dharma-beta-2-live/
I came back here after buying an XS35GT and since the above comments where part of my decision to buy a 4Gb stick for the box (it’s running Windows, so more is better).
The Shuttle does indeed accept a 4Gb stick, in my case a Corsair value RAM (prod # VS4GSDS800D2), but Windows 7 x64 (pro) does not recognize more than 3Gb. In fact it even spells it out as “Installed memory: 4 Gb (3Gb can be used)”.
It’s not necessarily 1 Gb wasted though, since a program like Dataram RAMDisk can access the surplus for uses such as a rambased swapspace or as browser cache directory, likely speeding up the box if used with a mechanical HD (and saving IO cycles on an SSD if anyone thinks that matters anymore).
I hope the above can be of value to someone pondering whether to buy two or four Gb or RAM for your XS35GT.
I just ordered a XS35GT V2 and according to the spec sheet Shuttle provides it supports 4GB SODIMM. There are a few more differences between V2 and V1: it supports DDR3, has a Atom 525 (1.8GHz) and Gigabit ethernet.
Spec sheet can be found here: http://www.shuttleshop.nl/pdf/shuttle/barebones/XS35GTV2.pdf
using the new xbmcfreak natty ion installs, v1 and v2, and I can’t even get it to boot right…oh well, still searching for a decent OS that will run XBMC and Hulu flawlessly, and provide web browsing and other configurations.
@tony
using this unit atm,I installed 640gb x 2 samsung drives and was having problems running HD media @ 720p, found out that power dvd 11 has acceleration for gpu and had a go.
This program is unbelievable.
noticed the lag was completely gone and now the cpu sits 10-30% usage.
Using vlc and mpcstar cpu usage was high now the acceleration and decodeding done on the ion no problems with 720p mkv’s
not sure if xbmc was doing this but i am still thinking of getting
http://corecodec.com/products/coreavc
can anyone recommend ??
any other hints and tips let me know — and anymore programs with acceleration for nvidia ion would be nice to know as well.
for now i will use Power DVD until i find something else.
@Pharohbender
CoreAvc and Media Player Classic works like a charm on my shuttle xs35gt and only 2gb of ram. I’ve kinda given up on windows with my shuttle and use Openelec had some hdmi audio problems but thats fixed now.
@Pharohbender
PS i can run 1080p mkvs with CoreAVC and MediaPlayer classic at around 20% cpu :¬)
A. Kalle,
For me it is just what i needed. HDMI for audio and video, enough usb and totally noiseless. It’s running now, the only way to see if it’s on is by the lights on it. It’s so silent with ssd!
So many people, many choices, but not for you. Why call it crap when it’s perfect for many pple….